Round The Bend 10.03.08

Today on Round the Bend…

• Last night's VP Debate
  
• MLB Playoffs
  
• NCAA Football Weekend Thoughts
  
• NFL Week 5 thoughts and predictions.
  

SayHey: Greetings

10:06 AM Dews: hola

looks like I missed a helluva show last night

JackGonzo: His opinion supposed to be respected my ass. Good morning everyone and welcome to Round the Bend if you're just joining us I'm talking about James Carvell's response to last night's debate...or lack there of

SayHey: It was quite the debate

JackGonzo: We'll start right off with said debates, overall thoughts?

Dews: Carville is a Clinton guy though, could still be mad at the VP pick

10:07 AM SayHey: I think Carvells response was more in line with the perceived success on the part of Palin, and not the comical outcome we all expected

JackGonzo: Carville married the enemy

Dews: makes sense that he did though, someone like Carville will live longer if he could argue everyday

JackGonzo: success? When is it when someone doesn't screw up terribly a success?

Dews: and I'm sure that happens all the time in that house

10:08 AM SayHey: Im not saying it was a success

Many "experts" say that

I thought she was a trainwreck

JackGonzo: Have we fallen that far in this country that since she didn't fuck it up, she won?

Dews: Gonzo, in any debate for the last 10-12 years its been a win for the "dumb" candidate just to not screw up

its like the American people just don't care

JackGonzo: As for a "debate" she was annihilated

SayHey: Right, for her not to completely fuck up, is a win in the republican side

Dews: the Gore vs Bush Debate cemented that

10:09 AM SayHey: She answered no questions and was wrong on all of her attacks

JackGonzo: The dumbing down of America makes my head hurt and my trigger finger itchy

Dews: Dems can't win Debates no matter how much more refined or on topic they look in the Debate

all the GOP candidate has to do is show up, and not say they'll eat your baby

JackGonzo: They need to pull a Perot and start bringing slides

but I think she said that last night

10:10 AM SayHey: Obama has his fireside chats

Dews: well, I'm sure they can spin that somehow

"What she meant by the wanting to eat all american children, is that she has a special love for children, especially those with special needs"

JackGonzo: Hell, she wants to make the Earth pay for its own rape kit

Dews: "because as you know, Sarah Palin has a special needs child"

SayHey: I love Palins answer in regards to the Nuklear (yes, she says nuclear like Dubya does)

10:11 AM Fire the nukes so the enemy cant get em

JackGonzo: A special love for children? You know who hass special love for children? Pedophiles

SayHey: Palin dropped the single parent bomb on Biden

Lucky for Biden, she didnt do her homework

Since Biden was a single parent

JackGonzo: No, that was the single parent sling shot

SayHey: Either way......BACKFIRE

10:12 AM JackGonzo: Biden brought out his single parent Doom gun

Dews: I honestly don't understand why we even do debates anymore

the BFG?

SayHey: So news media has something to do

JackGonzo: word

how else would we drink DURING election season?

SayHey: If we were really drinking via the group chat, we would have gotten wasted in the first 20 minutes

10:13 AM Dews: I dunno, thinking about the general public's ability to pick a president, and our current options causes me to drink sufficiently

JackGonzo: I was, I did, I didn't go to sleep until 430 eastern

SayHey: Yeh, some of us work so I didnt get that luxery

Although I made up for it on Friday

JackGonzo: yeah, and I still got up before the wife lol

SayHey: Jesus

Dews: good work Gonzo!

10:14 AM JackGonzo: Three pints of romulan ale gets ya wired and makes you want to play Battlefield Bad Company until 330 in the morning

SayHey: Yeh, my drink of choice was flat water

Got hammered Wednesday night......had to take it easy last night

Dews: I was a "Flying Dog" and "Miller Light" champ last night

10:15 AM SayHey: You had the Biden and Palin of beers

Good and shit

Dews: while singing "Down with the Sickness" I might add

JackGonzo: Now we have a bigger topic to discuss...about dews...was it really Rock Band 2 with a Hoosier....or did he sneak off to the NKOTB concert?

SayHey: Question Dews........Why are you a Boilermaker fan when your female interest is a Hoosier?

Gonzo and I couldnt figure that out

10:16 AM Dews: ahh, Hoosier obviously went to IU, bu tis a Purdue fan

SayHey: Er, rather, pulling for them? We know your no college fan of any sort

Dews: and big Drew Brees fan

SayHey: Interconference confussion

Thats like Gonzo being an OSU and TX fan

FSU and Miami fan for me

JackGonzo: Indiana only has four options. ND, IU, Purdue and Indiana State

Dews: But, Hoosier was also born a Hoosier, didn't just become one from attending IU

10:17 AM SayHey: Huh?

Dews: From Indiana = Hoosier

JackGonzo: She obviously didn't want to be an engineer so she couldn't GO to Purdue

SayHey: No shit

Seems like your calling a certain someone a bandwagon

Thats all

Dews: I am?

SayHey: OlneyGirl wasnt a Hoosier fan as a kid

And went there

JackGonzo: No, what he's saying is that everyone born in Indiana is a Hoosier

10:18 AM SayHey: Now she is a Hoosier for life

Right.......Im confussed by his context

Dews: Ohhh no, not at all, just that she was born a Hoosier, but is a Boilermaker fan

SayHey: SInce Olney fits his other description, which sounds bandwagonish

Dews: OlneyGirl is a Hoosier too

just by attending

SayHey: Ok, I gotcha

JackGonzo: Jesus, are you two at the Press Club already?

Dews: I assume anyway?

I am unfamiliar with the rules...

I wish...

10:19 AM Jimmie has joined

SayHey: Me to......need to argue

JackGonzo: I can't make it tonight, I'm second row center for Henry Rollins tonight

SayHey: And it will be nice to not argue baseball, since its evident that both of our teams suck

Very nice!!

Dews: Good score Gonzo!

Mr.SanDiego: Sorry I am late. Dews jsut had a delivery

10:20 AM Dews: Ahhh, excellent....

SayHey: Whats her name??

JackGonzo: What, all his RB shit?

Dews: zing!

JackGonzo: I swear, the first thing that came to my mind was....thanks Jim, I just got from Red Lobster

SayHey: Oh, speaking of deliverys........Ill be sporting new garb at Hooters this Sunday

FINALLY, got a jersey

Dews: Skins?

Mr.SanDiego: nice

10:21 AM SayHey: Your an ass

JackGonzo: Alright, before we move on, any thoughts on last night's debate from San Diego

Dews: you sound like my mom SayHey

SayHey: Frank Gore, baby

No, she calls you an asshole

Big difference

JackGonzo: Look at him, the seminole cheering for the hurricane

Dews: right, my bad

Mr.SanDiego: Good for Palin that she didn't screw up more

but Biden really showed that he knows his shit

SayHey: She did fuck up the Commander in Afganistans name

10:22 AM JackGonzo: Even if she didn't answer a single question and looked like she needed a stiff drink all night?

SayHey: Agreed

Mr.SanDiego: and I think millions of Americans were thinking, between these two, he is the one I want a heartbeat away...

JackGonzo: dear christ I hope so

Dews: I would hope so

SayHey: Yep

JackGonzo: So let us continue the discussion of MLB playoffs...who is the worse playoff team, the Cubs or the Angels?

10:23 AM SayHey: Cubsa

Hands down

Mr.SanDiego: but lets cut the crap talk and get on to the only topics that matter for the weekend, sports

SayHey: 4 errors??

Mr.SanDiego: Cubs suck

JackGonzo: Each infielder had one

Has Manny proven yet that he's the best player in baseball?

SayHey: Im more focused on Longoria

Dews: unfortunately, yes

SayHey: Kid is a beast

10:24 AM Mr.SanDiego: I don't think he is the best

JackGonzo: You could be a beast against White Sox pitching

Mr.SanDiego: but he is a leader and he does have great timing

especially in the playoffs

SayHey: Sox are a playoff team, they must have done something right

JackGonzo: Let me put it this way then Anti-Dodger, is there a better producer in the playoffs?

SayHey: Oh, whats up with Mannys Cosby sweater fetish?

10:25 AM Mr.SanDiego: Evan Longoria

JackGonzo: I'm just talking overall

SayHey: Certainly no Philly

Howard and Utley, 0-7 with 6 k's

Yikes

Dews: Longoria looks to be a beast too, but we gotta give him some more time to prove it

JackGonzo: Even when the Indians were losing in the playoffs he was raking

SayHey: Agreed

Mr.SanDiego: well we can only talk in the present

SayHey: But for a rookie, he has done some amazing things so far

Dews: Philly doesn't look like they're gonna slow though, even without their big bats

10:26 AM Mr.SanDiego: and this playoffs I think he has a bigger impact than Ramirez

SayHey: Yeh, they proved to me why CC is not an NY Cy Young

JackGonzo: As long as they keep pitching, and Victorino keeps pulling shit out of his ass

Mr.SanDiego: but we are only two games in

SayHey: He got shelled last night

JackGonzo: CC just isn't a playoff pitcher....he's like Dan Marino

10:27 AM SayHey: He is the pitching version of Arod

Dews: gotta cut the guy some slack, he was gettin squeezed on the strike zone, and he's thrown on 3 days rest 4 times in a row

SayHey: Thats just bad management

Dews: not if he can get you to the playoffs

and is capable of doing it

10:28 AM JackGonzo: Tonight is all AL, predictions?

SayHey: Not if the coaching staff has put his arm through that stress all month

He was bound to break down

Mr.SanDiego: Angels come back hard

SayHey: I think they will

Dews: the goal is to make the playoffs no matter what though

I doubt it

SayHey: Oh I agree

Dews: Angels are always choke artists

SayHey: And they made the playoffs

JackGonzo: I swear I thought Dusty Baker was managing the Brewers as much as CC was pitching

10:29 AM SayHey: Great point

Dews: haha, yes, good call

JackGonzo: College Football last night saw South Florida fall to Pitt, any other big upsets this weekend?

Mr.SanDiego: Tampa at home.

SayHey: I think Sveums thinking was, who gives a fuck, he wont be a Brewer next year

Mr.SanDiego: Oh yeah, there goes one of the "Mid Majors"

10:30 AM Ryan has left

JackGonzo: hopefully CC comes home to Oakland

Dews: uh

SayHey: Hometown discount

Dews: not likely

SayHey: number 1 target for Cashman

JackGonzo: fuck you, he's not going to the AL East

Dews: my guess is Angels or Dodgers

SayHey: Nahhh

JackGonzo: Beane is gonna be all Tom Cruise

Dews: west coast team will get a discount

Mr.SanDiego: Wisconsin over Ohio St.

SayHey: If anything, Boston, NY, or Chi Cubs

Dews: but Oakland can't afford that though

10:31 AM Mr.SanDiego: Football fools

SayHey: One can only hope SD

JackGonzo: like hell we can't, we're not paying anyone else

Mr.SanDiego: we are on football!

Dews: my bad

SayHey: Well, still paying Chavez huge dollars

Dews: sky is falling here... brb

Mr.SanDiego: changing topics is like trying to stop a freight train

SayHey: Pretty much

Mr.SanDiego: So clint was asking about weeknd NCAA FB

10:32 AM I think Ohio St. is ripe for being upset

JackGonzo: Is there a game bigger then Auburn Vandy?.....did I just say that?

Technically it wouldn't be an upset though, Wisconsin is ranked higher

Mr.SanDiego: I think both those teams are way over their level now

JackGonzo: I don't know, I've watched Vandy, they have some talent and no one is paying them any mind

Mr.SanDiego: this weekend though isn't the weekend one of them falls back down to earth

10:33 AM JackGonzo: If DJ Moore isn't a top ten pick next April I'll be shocked

Mr.SanDiego: Okay, they beat SC

but then who?

and no real blowouts

10:34 AM SayHey: SC is a non factor

Mr.SanDiego: they went through the soft part of their schedule and never really could pile it on

Vandy is a fraud

faking the funk

That said Auburn is no better

JackGonzo: they beat a tough Ole Miss team too

10:35 AM Mr.SanDiego: Um what was the score on that game clint?

3-2

JackGonzo: Vandy isn't an offensive power house, Vandy is a defensive team

Mr.SanDiego: a baseball score

JackGonzo: 23-17

Mr.SanDiego: oh I was talking Auburn now

SayHey: Not every good game has to be a blowout

Mr.SanDiego: and Miss st

10:36 AM But these were the weaker teams on their schedule

JackGonzo: oh Auburn sucks and is almost always overrated, just like the Suckeyes

Mr.SanDiego: when it comes time to put that into the BCS computers

it will hurt Vandy

Dews: Vandy sucks

there

10:37 AM Mr.SanDiego: I like Oregon vs USC for another smack down of the Trojans

Dews: only good thing to come outta Vandy was Buster Olney

SayHey: Jay Cutler?

And of course I joke

Dews: I stick by my oiginal statement...

JackGonzo: not if they can run the table...they have Georgia and Florida, but those are the only big power houses in the SEC they play until in the title game

Mr.SanDiego: So three losses

they won't even get a BCS game

10:38 AM Vandy may be better but they are not at that level yet

JackGonzo: Oregon St couldn't keep its production up and also lost last night to Utah, what's this say about USC?

SayHey: Over-Rated

10:39 AM Mr.SanDiego: I think the state of Oregon is not going to be kind to the boys from So Cal

JackGonzo: what's the worse game this weekend

10:40 AM Stanford v Notre Dame or LA Lafayette v LA Monroe?

Mr.SanDiego: Top 25 or overall?

SayHey: BYU vs Utah St.

Yawn

JackGonzo: I should also throw in there Florida International v North Texas

10:41 AM SayHey: FSU vs Miami.........Cannes are going down my friends

Mr.SanDiego: VT at Western Kentucky

10:42 AM The Hilltoppers got beat 1-3 by the Wildcats (kentucky)

10:43 AM Noodle should be a happy camper this weekend

JackGonzo: Here's the real question, how many parole officers we will be at the FSU Miami game?

SayHey: Agreed

Mr.SanDiego: opps should read 41-3

SayHey: Not as many, the FSU suspensions are lifted

10:44 AM Dews: legal issues and NCAA issues are seprate though

SayHey: ohhhhhh

;-)

Mr.SanDiego: The Aztecs of SDSU get TCU this weekend

well they are in TCU

that should get ugly too, human sacrafices all around

10:45 AM JackGonzo: lol

Will the Titans and Ravens game this weekend be one of the worst offensive games ever?

Mr.SanDiego: sweet can we go through each NFL matchup?

Well both D's can score

10:46 AM I think the Titans get this one though

They aren't starting a rookie QB

JackGonzo: How insufferable will SayHey be if the Niners can beat the Pats this weekend?

SayHey: I will dance naked in the streets

Mr.SanDiego: We can jsut put him on mute

10:47 AM question is, can the Niners protect their QB

SayHey: Really? I thought we are all Niner fans this week

Mr.SanDiego: that will be the difference maker in that game

JackGonzo: SayHey has had this weird obsession of dancing naked in the streets for the last 24 hours

I'm on bye

SayHey: I really want an excuse these days

Mr.SanDiego: KC Carolina

how ugly can that get

SayHey: Carolina will spank them

10:48 AM JackGonzo: Carolina literally running away

Mr.SanDiego: or is Huard the savior of the Chiefs

Dews: Huard is at least a servicable starter

SayHey: Hell, I think Gonzo might be KC's next starting QB

Mr.SanDiego: They did beat Denver

JackGonzo: or are the Broncos just really that bad

Mr.SanDiego: They have the #2 offense in the NFL

SayHey: We'll see this week........Their defense is going to have quite the workout

Mr.SanDiego: So Denver vs Tampa

10:49 AM another slaughter I think

JackGonzo: Tampa

Mr.SanDiego: Tampa D is strong

JackGonzo: real quick sidebar, CityCat just sent me this story, maybe the greatest story I've ever seen

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/03/australia.zoo.carnage.ap/index.html

SayHey: Tampa has a great running attack

Oh, I read about this

Future whack job kid of america

er, the world

Dews: Tampa if Garcia is ever allowed to start again

Mr.SanDiego: nice

10:50 AM Dews: wow

Mr.SanDiego: What about your hometown boys clint

JackGonzo: no word on whether or not this kid is Dews in any way, we just can't be sure can we

SayHey: bye week

Mr.SanDiego: Does Houston have what it takes against the Colts?

Dews: they play them pretty well usually

SayHey: ah, Texans

Mr.SanDiego: Yeah no

JackGonzo: They get crushed...ZERO of their safeties are healthy

Mr.SanDiego: I have more respect for Manning and Addai

10:51 AM JackGonzo: I think they may pull a Washington State and start auditioning people for the spot

Dews: Manning is just beat up

he's at half speed

that totally screws up their timing

SayHey: And of course this matchup happens when I play Dews in FF.......Addai is going to single handedly crush me

JackGonzo: Ray Charles could throw all over the Texans

Dews: Yes, and Yes

Mr.SanDiego: Houston run defense??

SayHey:
sigh

Dews: And Portis

JackGonzo: they have a run defense?

Mr.SanDiego: So Atlanta Green Bay

SayHey: Not worried about Portis as much as Addai

Mr.SanDiego: Ryan vs Rodgers/maybe?

10:52 AM or is he out

JackGonzo: they only more inept team defensively may be the Broncos, Lions and Rams

Dews: I'm betting Rodgers is out

SayHey: He practiced yesterday, so im assuming Gametime decision

JackGonzo: He;ll play, if they let him

Dews: still wondering what happened to that older gentleman they had as a potential backup in Green Bay....

Mr.SanDiego: Matt Flynn

Dews: too bad they don't have him still...

JackGonzo: it's only the Falcons so he could play two series, score and let Flynn or Brohm in

Mr.SanDiego: wouldn't that be the way, all the hype on A Rog

SayHey: I think Brohm would have more success

10:53 AM Mr.SanDiego: and Matt Flynn leads this team

Yeah, even without Harris, the Packer D is going to dine on Ryan

JackGonzo: did Trey slip you the LSU Kool Aid?

Mr.SanDiego: Oh I love LSU

Geaux Tigers!

10:54 AM Speaking of...thoughts on Russell post Kiffin

and on the state of the Raiders

SayHey: Russell took the low road

JackGonzo: How bad are the Bengals going to get beaten by the Cowboys, and will you watch the game just to see Ocho Cinco kiss the star?

SayHey: I love what Sapp said

Dews: Russell was quoted as saing they had a good relationship though?

10:55 AM SayHey: He isnt going to stir the pot

Mr.SanDiego: Sapp is classic

JackGonzo: What did Sapp say?

SayHey: Sapp blames everything on Davis

JackGonzo: I don't have Showtime

SayHey: Said he needs to get rid of that 70's and 80's mentality

Mr.SanDiego: and yes, I would watch the Bagals Cowgirls just to see Ocho pull a TO

and get KOed at the 50

SayHey: And that once he is gone, the Raiders will be a playoff team again

10:56 AM Id love to see Ocho pull a Rock Cartwright.......since Rock stole that star dance from TO

Mr.SanDiego: so Cowboys baounce back

Dews: I'd rather see a Bengals blowout

SayHey: Mos def

Dews: obviously..

Mr.SanDiego: but the Skins are not looking as strong on D all of a sudden

Dews: They looked pretty good last week

Mr.SanDiego: both Taylor and Springs are out

10:57 AM SayHey: Redskins D has been pretty solid lately

Dews: Springs is hurt, but Springs wasn't the only guy covering TO

SayHey: But the loss of Springs will hurt

JackGonzo: Skins Eagles...or how much shit talking will dews have to hear from our resident Eagle fan?

Mr.SanDiego: So less pass D

SayHey: Carlos Rogers took over and did pretty well

Mr.SanDiego: Like I said before

Dews: we CANNOT lose that game with her there

Mr.SanDiego: McNabb is goign to have to throw against the Skins

that should help him

JackGonzo: if Jackson catches the ball

Mr.SanDiego: good point

SayHey: I dont think him catching to ball is the issue

10:58 AM Its fumbling while doing retard dances

JackGonzo: I know all about WR not catching balls

Dews: ah yes

SayHey: Braylon.........Edwards

Mr.SanDiego: so I say Eagles in a nailbitter

sorry Jeff

SayHey: I hate to give this to the Eagles, but I gotta

Dews: it should be a good gae

er game

SayHey: Philly home game

Dews: but we really only needed to win one of these games on the road

Dallas or Philly

10:59 AM Mr.SanDiego: What about that other NFC team

JackGonzo: does anyone care about the Bears Lions game? Does anyone care about the Lions?

Mr.SanDiego: the Giants Seahawks

Dews: and in all honesty, I'd rather see the Dallas win :)

Mr.SanDiego: does anyone even care

SayHey: Bears 76........Lion, tree

Mr.SanDiego: Bears

SayHey: Dah Bears

Mr.SanDiego: Giants

JackGonzo: Seahawks suck this year, even if Julius Jones is single handedly keeping me alive in fantasy football

Mr.SanDiego: Buffalo vs Arizona?

11:00 AM SayHey: Dah Bills

JackGonzo: bills by blowout

Dews: Cards

SayHey: No Boldin

No chance in hell

Mr.SanDiego: I think the Bills are better but they have a very very soft schedule

Dews: I don't believe in Bils

Mr.SanDiego: they win here though

SayHey: Bills play fundamental football........ I believe in the hype

Mr.SanDiego: next week they lose

SayHey: They have a bye next week

JackGonzo: you haven't seen a blowout this bad since Britney last flashed the paparazzi

Dews: Fitzgerald just get Boldin's 100 yards and finishes with 220 yards

zing!

11:01 AM SayHey: Terrance McGee is hurt, so its quite possible

Dews: Boldin is a luxury

JackGonzo: Bills are going to win the AFC East, and if the rest of the AFC isn't careful we're once again gonna be singing...Buffalos going to the Super Bowl

Mr.SanDiego: um...

Dews: nah

SayHey: Their #3 guy isnt half bad, Beesly, or something?

Mr.SanDiego: speaking of AFC East

expect to hear this a lot

http://www.chargers.com/assets/002/11568.mp3

Dews: Pats are still aroudn

11:02 AM haha

saw that coming

SayHey: Bah

Mr.SanDiego: Having seafood this weekend

JackGonzo: well it was only a matter of time until that came up

SayHey: Yeh, had to drop that eardrum burster

11:03 AM JackGonzo: Alright wrap this up, we've been at it for an hour again, absolutely killing whatever work SayHey and Dews do

Mr.SanDiego: It makes ya get up out of your seat and do a little dance

SayHey: Pretty much......But, one final question

Dews: yea, Election season makes sky fall here...

Mr.SanDiego: Pitt over J ville

SayHey: Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson?

Mr.SanDiego: game of the week

Dews: EAS MAN!

"Now I'm done..."

SayHey: LOL

Mr.SanDiego: NO over Vikes

SayHey: NO

JackGonzo: NO, Pitt

Dews: Nawlins

SayHey: Pitt, yeh

11:04 AM Mr.SanDiego: got em all

Monday morning QB next time

?

JackGonzo: Dodgers continue to piss off SD, Philadelphia fans lose their shit when they win a series and beat the Skins in the same weekend

Dews: not happening...

Mr.SanDiego: Yeah, We have to deal with Philly fan this week

SayHey: I think it will happen

11:05 AM Mr.SanDiego: oh jezus

weekend

SayHey: I hope to God we are wrong

JackGonzo: how come I see Dews doing a Gollum, I'm not listening thing right now

Dews: there is not enough beer to help me deal with that

SayHey: Philly fan deserves no happiness

Dews: LALALALALA

SayHey: Ok fella's, time t ogo

JackGonzo: alright, you two go to lunch

Mr.SanDiego: take us out

http://www.chargers.com/assets/002/11568.mp3

Dews: ha

11:06 AM JackGonzo: SD and I will actually eat breakfast

SayHey: Hate you both

Dews: ...

JackGonzo: and everyone have a safe, fun, and non conception weekend

Dews: er

SayHey: No promises

Dews birthday

Dews: I got nothing...

SayHey: Booyah

Mr.SanDiego: peace

JackGonzo: When I say non conception obviously I mean no creating of babies, just the act of no actual

11:07 AM Jimmie has left

SayHey: Again, I cant vouche for Dews

JackGonzo: can we ever? Godd night now!

College Football Top 25 Week Three

1. USC Trojans (2-0)
beat Ohio St 35-7
Is there any doubt of who is leading the pack in college football right now? Hell, we've seen some great USC teams in the past, but have any played this good out of the gate as this team has? This defense is for real and very well could stop some NFL offenses right now, at least the Chiefs. There may be nothing in the way to stop USC from the National Title.

2. Georgia Bulldogs (3-0)
beat South Carolina 14-7
A tough game for the Bulldogs, they come out barely alive, but with the victory. Where USC looked like Supermen, Georgia looked human and Spurrier almost became upset special this week. Luckily the Bulldogs stay undefeated and still become the eventual losers to USC.

3. Missouri Tigers (3-0)
beat Nevada 69-17
Most people may have blown this off, but Nevada has been known in the past to surprise a few teams. This week though was not one of those weeks. Missouri appears to put everything together, and the wheels are churning now as we get closer to conference play.With that amount of talent the Big 12 has this year, you almost have to give it to Missouri over Georgia if they go undefeated.

4. Oklahoma Sooners(3-0)
beat Washington 55-14
An impressive win by the Sooners, but they faced an emotionally drained Washington team that had everything taken from them when they lost a heartbreaker to BYU last week. When Oklahoma starts conference play, THEN we'll see if this team is as good as billed.

5. Florida Gators (2-0)
beat Miami 26-3
Florida gets the benefit of moving up because teams above them lost, and or played so horribly that they were moved down, ie see Tigers, Auburn. This team hasn't impressed me too much yet as it seems to still be the Tim Tebow show and as we saw last year that show won't win you a National Title.

6. Alabama Crimson Tide (3-0)
beat Western Kentucky 41-7
I though Nick Saban was a year away from having the recruits he wanted to make his big push of taking over the SEC once again. Apparently he isn't going to wait and neither are his Freshmen, as they plan and look like they can dominate the SEC for years to come.

7. BYU Cougars (3-0)
beat UCLA 59-0
All I can think of when I see this score is how do you like that, grasshopper! It's no secret that I despise Rick Neuheisel and believe for his past transgressions he should be banned from coaching in college football. That being said, if he allows himself to get spanked by this by the Mormon Cougars, keep him coaching. Watching Neuheisel get beat like this will always bring a smile to my face.

8. Auburn Tigers (3-0)
beat Mississippi St 3-2
Since I was trying to survive due to Hurricane Ike I have no idea how this came about and can only assume this was due to inclement weather. If not, if the game really was just that sloppy, jimminy fucking christmass, they both should be in Conference USA.

9. Texas Longhorns (2-0)
beat UTEP 42-13
This week's game against the Razorbacks was moved to September 27th due to Hurricane Ike. They finally move into the top ten, but as we all know it's due to teams losing then anything else.

10. South Florida Bulls (3-0)
beat Kansas 37-34
This was the last game I was able to watch before hell was unleashed upon Southeast Texas. What a wonderful game, I didn't think South Florida had it in them to come back and edge out a victory, but what a phenomenal game. It will now be interesting to see if South Florida can run the table. The toughest game, maybe their only tough game, left on their schedule is West Virginia at the end of the year.

11. LSU Tigers (2-0)
beat North Texas 41-3
Not gonna lie, still not impressed with LSU. They've played Appalachin State and North Texas. A lower division school and Texas' version of Florida International. Yes, they've beaten both soundly, but that's what you're SUPPOSED to do. They're not going anywhere until I see a win of importance, and that could come this Saturday against Auburn.

12. Wisconsin Bagers (3-0)
beat Fresno State 13-10
A tough hard fought victory over the Bulldogs leave the Badgers undefeated, for the moment. I won't lie, I didn't think Wisconsin could beat Fresno State and if I would have taken the point line I would have been right if memory serves. I still don't see them lasting very long in the top 25 when conference play comes around.

13. Ohio State Buckeyes (2-1)
lost USC 35-7
Offensively this team may have nothing without Beanie Wells, who is known to be fragile. Defensively we've seen more of the defense that played in last year's title game, and the year before, then the defense we all expected them to have. At least we know one thing for certain, the Buckeyes aren't making a third trip to lose the title game this year.

14. Texas Tech Red Raiders (3-0)
beat SMU 43-7
The Big 12's version of Boise State completely rolled SMU as it attempts to come back from the NCAA death sentence. They look impressive, and have played average teams, but it still needs to translate into beating the big boys of the Big 12.

15. East Carolina Pirates (3-0)
beat Tulane 28-24
No team has helped its future with their scheduling more then East Carolina did this year. They've knocked off top teams, and where they looked a big shaky this week, it can only be expected when you lower a level and have to play Tulane instead of a team like the Hokies.

16. Penn State Nittany Lions (3-0)
beat Syracuse 55-13
I'm assuming the JoePa is no fan of Keats as he appears to be going out with a bang and not with a whimper. Penn State just continues to destroy people, and don't think that the voters won't hold back in Penn State begins to do it in the Big Ten. You know the writers and coaches are a bunch of softies and would love to put JoePa in the title game in likely his last year as coach.

17. Wake Forest Demon Deacons (2-0)
beat Mississippi 30-28
Having a bye after that tough game versus Ole Miss may be the best thing for the Demon Deacons. It gives them a chance to prepare for the Seminoles, heal their injuries, and begin that long journey through ACC play.

18. Vanderbilt Commodores (3-0)
beat Rice 38-21
You're probably wondering to yourself, what in the same hell is Vanderbilt doing at 18?! Well, for one thing they have DJ Moore, who could be the first defensive player in years to get serious consideration for the Heisman. They beat South Carolina 24-17, the team that just took the number two team in the nation to the limit, and no one is paying attention to them. If they beat Ole Miss, people's ears may perk up. If they beat Auburn, you better believe Georgia and the rest of the SEC are going to be paying attention.

19. Kansas Jayhawks (2-1)
lost South Florida 37-34
A tough loss for the Jayhawks against the Bulls this week. One thing that did stand out to me is the msot under-rated Quarterback in the country may be Todd Reesing. The kid knows how to play the quaterback position the way it was meant to be play. You can tell this kid is a leader, never gives up, and that you're always in the game because of him. You know, the exact opposite of Todd Boeckman.

20. Utah Utes (3-0)
beat Utah State 58-10
Another week, another impressive victory for the Utes. Joe Pesci's favorite team continues to do well, as does the top teams in the Mountain West. With Utah, TCU and BYU it may not be long before the Mountain West and the WAC form a big 12 team conference and kick the Big East out of being a "BCS Conference".

21. Oregon Ducks (3-0)
beat Purdue 32-26
You know how the SEC needs to keep a close eye on Vanderbilt? The same can be said about Oregon and the Pac 10. I don't know what it is about Oregon, but this team could be one of those teams that is quiet all year long until you realize it's week 10 and they haven't lost a game yet. Then again they have USC at the beginning of October.

22. Florida State Seminoles (2-0)
beat Chattanooga 46-7
I won't lie, Bobby could be pulling a run very much like JoePa is doing in the Big Ten. The difference is Bobby has a much tougher road then JoePa, as weird as that sounds. Wake is probably better then any Big Ten team, and they still have Florida at the end of the season. I won't lie, how great of a story would it be to see Bobby vs JoePa for the title in their final season.

23. Nebraska Cornhuskers (3-0)
beat New Mexico State 38-7
Though there is no love for Nebraska, they have managed to start 3-0 and have their new coach which could make things interesting. Their first real test is their next game against Virginia Tech, which will have people paying attention or make Noodle very happy.

24. TCU Horned Frogs (3-0)
beat Stanford 31-14
Don't look now, but the MWC now has three teams in the top 25, the WAC has zero. Then again if Boise pulls the upset over Oregon next weekend that could change, but it is still impressive. TCU has just been playing solid football and have worked hard to get into the top 25.

25. Illinois Fighting Illini (2-1)
beat Louisiana Lafayette 20-17
It's been a rough road since week one for the Illini, but they have fought and scratched and have won their next two. If it wasn't for Penn State, I'd say that this was a wide open conference. Iowa is a very quiet 3-0, but Illinois still has the firepower to make some noise and if Penn State can't keep up their pace, Illinois may be able to steal away the Big Ten.

NCAA Vs. Mayo

Alright.. I'm sure almost everyone has heard the story about O.J. Mayo accepting tickets from Carmelo Anthony by now. They've been talking about it on ESPN for about a week. I never thought the NCAA would actually take action against Mayo for two tickets that were given to him from a friend who happens to play in the NBA. From what I hear Anthony gives out free tickets all the time. I'm glad they aren't suspending the kid for this.. only making him pay back the $460 the tickets cost. I guess since it technically did violate a rule the punishment isn't that bad, but I don't think I will ever understand why this was such a big deal according to the NCAA.. maybe if Melo bought him a car I would be more understanding..

NCAA Football 2007/08 Season Top 25

The season has now come and gone and we are still no where closer to being closer to knowing who is the number one team in the nation. Sure LSU destroyed Ohio State, but I'm of the opinion that Ohio State was a good team who benefited playing in a vastly overrated conference. Then again I don't have the biggest opinion of the SEC either as I think both the Big 12 and Pac 10 had stronger overall conferences this year, and the bowl games seem to prove that point. The SEC needs to learn to schedule some big name teams in the non-conference portion of the season if they want my respect. The Big 10 tries, but they lose more often then not.

So the following is my season ending top twenty five. If I ever become a journalist and somehow get a vote to this thing, it could get very interesting. Hell, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to tell my votes every week.

1. USC Trojans
To say they manhandled Illinois would be to say Mike Tyson has slight anger issues. If only they had been healthy when they lost to the Drunken Christmas trees.
2. LSU Tigers
They're good, they have plenty of NFL talent, I still don't think they could even handle USC and they're only above Georgia cause they managed to win the conference.
3. Georgia Bulldogs
Do you think that team goes into the offseason now understanding how important every game is and not taking the first half off?
4. Missouri Tigers
They should start next season as the number one, two or three team in the nation. The scary thing is that they have the talent and determination to stay there all year.
5. Ohio State Buckeyes
Another out matched Buckeye squad killed by the SEC. I guess in college football speed beat strength. They won't be there next year, they face USC in the regular season.
6. West Virginia Mountaineers
The biggest example on this entire list that speed beats strength was their drubbing of Boomer Sooner.
7. Kansas Jayhawks
I love this team, but they're losing too many of their key players to the NFL to make a similar run next year.
8. Virginia Tech Hokies
Once again the Hokies were proven to be the overrated pieces of fried chicken they are every year.
9. Oklahoma Sooners
You get put above my team only because you beat them earlier in the year, but now we have the gameplan to beat you...badly.
10. Texas Longhorns
We came, we saw, we sent the Sun Devils screaming back to hell. Perhaps Colt McCoy will shake off that sophomore slump next year.
11. Boston College Eagles
A decent year by a decent team in a decent conference. Do I think BC represents the ACC, just a tad.
12. BYU Cougars
They get here for their record alone, you have to respect only two losses.
13. Tennessee Volunteers
So they beat Wisconsin, so can many other teams in the nation, play someone with some talent Volunteers.
14. Auburn Tigers
Next year may be the year Auburn FINALLY puts all the pieces together and makes the destined National Title run.
15. Cincinnati Bearcats
They were damn impressive this year, especially for a team no one even thought twice leading up to it.
16. Michigan Wolverines
I won't lie, watching the Wolverines control their game against Florida brought a smile to my face.
17. Arizona State Sun Devils
The injury bug hurt them second worse in the Pac 10 this year (Oregon 1) but there are is promise out there in the sand and sun.
18. Hawaii Warriors
First time in the big time gitters, they were a better football team then they showed on the National scale.
19. Illinois Fighting Illini
When a team has speed AND strength speed alone won't win, will they Illinois?
20. Florida Gators
I don't like you, call me biased, but I still don't think you're any good.
21. Clemson Tigers
They could finally make it into the ACC title game next year, but then it's Clemson and they'll find a way to fuck it up.
22. Texas Tech Red Raiders
A beautiful and great Bowl Game victory of Virginia for Texas Tech.
23. Kentucky Wildcats
They barely managed to beat a team who had a quarter of their players not there, not that impressive. Beating LSU though was.
24. Oregon State Beavers
An overlooked Pac 10 team who has a running back folks should be taking a closer look at.
25. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Still a young team who can do damage in the ACC, but without Justice time will tell.

NCAA Football Top 25 Nov 19

The week has come and gone and we've lost two of our contenders. My best friend Dock's prediction of a Oklahoma and Oregon National Title game was killed in one weekend, my condolences. I know everyone talks conference strength, but look at it. ACC, Big Ten and SEC only have one team in the top team each. Big 12 and Pac 10 have 2.

1. Kansas Jayhawks (1)-This Saturday is the big game, my number one versus my number two, the winner goes to the Big 12 Title game where they will likely face either Oklahoma or Texas, depending on who can win their game and if OU loses. Either way, Jaba the Mangi has his team undefeated.
2. Missouri Tigers (4)-I bumped them above LSU because they weren't the team that played close with Ole Miss. The Mizz went out, took care of business, and won their game, period. Chase Daniels will be with Spiller as Heisman candidates next season.
3. LSU Tigers (3)-If somehow LSU and Ohio St play for the national title game, I may not watch. It will be played between two teams who in my mind are definitely not the best two teams in the nation.
4. Arizona St Sun Devils (6)-Arizona St, the team everyone has forgotten about in the National Title picture. All they need to do this week is knock off USC and beat arch rival Arizona, no big task...right.
5. Ohio St Buckeyes (7)-They beat Michigan 14-3 in may have been the ugliest Ohio St Michigan game I've ever seen. Neither team looked very good, definitely not national title material.Sadly somehow they could still make it into the game if enough teams lose.
6. West Virginia Mountaineers (8)-They have a bumpy road, but like Ohio St, if they win out they could be playing for the National Title. I don't know what it is this year, but obviously the football gods demand a playoff system.
7. Virginia Tech Hookies (9)-A solid win this week against the Hurricanes. Their big test comes this week against in state rival Virginia. Honestly, I don't know if the Hookies can contain Virginia's defense. Chris Long will eat them alive.
8. Texas Longhorns (10)-After that two week spat of forgetting who they were, the Longhorns have fought hard and have won out. Now they have A&M, knowing that if they win and Oklahoma loses they're in the Big 12 title game. In the past that shoe has been reversed, perhaps Colt McCoy can remember who the hell he is.
9. Georgia Bulldogs (11)-I thought Kentucky was gonna shock the world again, but that Bulldog running back is the real deal. He's doing things that no Georgia running back has done since Hershall Walker, he's that kind of special. Though I don't know if he has any interest bobsledding.
10. USC Trojans (12)-A span of losses could, theoretically, put USC in the title game. It would take Atlas moving the world, but theoretically it could happen. Will it happen, I give it a .00983% chance of happening.
11. Oklahoma Sooners (5)-They lost their starting QB, at the end of the game on their onside kick attempt they may have lost their star running back. Things are not looking pretty in Norman right now as apparently Adrian Peterson has infected his alma mater.
12. Oregon Ducks (2)-They may very well continue to slide down this ranking now that Dennis Dixon is done for the season and Jonathon Stewart won't be 100% either. The Brother of Leaf may be able to get them one more win, but magic 8 ball says all signs point to no.
13. Hawaii Warriors (13)-I still contend, especially in this year's uncanny season, that if Hawaii goes undefeated that they deserve to play in the National Title game. If not, at least put them up against West Virginia to see the biggest offensive showcase since the Navy North Texas game.
14. Boston College Eagles (14)-They did what no one in my Pick Em thought possible, they beat Clemson. They came from behind and shocked us all, but they managed to pull it off. They can get a BCS bowl game with an ACC Title win, not to bad for a first year head coach.
15. Boise St Broncos (15)-Either way it plays out, I won't be surprised to see the WAC Champion in a BCS Bowl Game. Hell, I'd love to see them in there again and watch them beat another big name school. After that perhaps the WAC will get some bloody respect huh?
16. Virginia Cavaliers (17)-They could really boost their rankings, and get them in position to play in a BCS game if they can beat VA Tech and win the ACC Title game. I think the defense is there to do it, the offense just needs to stop making so many mistakes and turnovers.
17. Illinois Fighting Illini (19)-I jumped Illinois over Florida because frankly they've impressed me more these last few weeks. That and I can't stand the Gators and I get a cruel irony that Zook showed them up and showed that even Illinois can beat Ohio St.
18. Florida Gators (18)-So Tim Teabow became the first Division IA quarterback to throw for twenty touchdowns and run for twenty touchdowns. Guess what folks, want to know how to beat Florida? Key on Tim Teabow, and someone hit him. I'm talking Ronnie Lott, Rodney Harrison type of hit.
19. UConn Huskies (23)-A tough fought victory this week, and a big one coming up against West Virginia. I personally would love to see UConn beat West Virginia, all that does is take the Mountaineers out and helps the Longhorns get back into the thick of things.
20. Wisconsin Badgers (24)-They moved up four spots, but that is because of the teams that lost below them. Playing a game that close against a very bad Minnesota team is almost inexcusable. But they won, that's the important.
21. Tennessee Volunteers (22)-They have a big game against Kentucky this week. I don't know, I want to route for Kentucky, but that hasn't helped them win lately. I think I'm gonna go with the Volunteers just knowing my luck this season and hope they lose cause of it.
22. BYU Cougars (N/R)-The BYU Cougars have only lost two games, I have to put them into the top 25. The one two loss team that no one is talking about, and I've seen portions of their games, this team can be deadly at times. I likely expect them to upset some bigger named team in their Bowl Game.
23. Clemson Tigers (16)-You have to finish the game Clemson and not let the Eagles come back if you want to be considered and talked about as one of the big name title contenders. That's been the MO of Clemson for years now, so should we be at all surprised?
24. Texas Tech Red Raiders (N/R)-I'd like to thank the Red Raiders for being the team that finally followed through with my upset prediction. Now if Oklahoma St can follow suit, I can soundly sleep knowing that Texas is in the Big 12 title game.
25. Troy Trojans (N/R)-I thought long and hard about who to put as the number 25 teams. In the end so many teams were of similar records, similar talent, but Troy was a step above. They only have three losses, and have beaten Oklahoma St this season. They managed to put up decent points against SEC foes, so why not. Congrats Troy, you've made the top 25, be proud.